H05022 HARDY AND TIME - 3/19/05 - HARDY FORUM ARCHIVES ____________________________________________________________________________
From: jacky@wilkibob.me.uk
Subject: Time
Date: March 19, 2005 11:36:38 AM PST
I wonder if anyone can help me on this one. I am looking for any article/book concerning Hardy and the concept of time - cyclical/ linear, Great tradition etc. Does anyone know of any suitable source?
Thanks in advance for any help you may give,
Jacky
jacky@wilkibob.me.uk
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From: hardycor@owl.csusm.edu
Subject: Re: Time
Date: March 19, 2005 2:00:30 PM PST
Jacky, neither of the books I am going to suggest are about Thomas Hardy's
work in particular, but I found them both very useful when I was writing a
chapter on Time in my dissertation:
Buckley, Jerome Hamilton. _The Triumph of Time_. Cambridge:
Belknap-Harvard UP, 1966.
Meyerhoff, Hans. _Time in Literature._ Berkely: U of California P, 1960.
Both old, but very good!
All the Best,
Betty
hardycor@owl.csusm.edu
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From: jacky@wilkibob.me.uk
Subject: RE: Time
Date: March 19, 2005 3:24:34 PM PST
Thanks for that, Betty. I have sent off for the Buckley book but so far have
not managed to trace the Meyerhoff.
Jacky
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From: schweikr@localnet.com
Subject: Time
Date: March 19, 2005 5:01:33 PM PST
Of course the influence on Hardy's ideas on time by Darwin and Einstein have been documented in many different places, but there are a couple of other influences in his ideas about time I might mention.
One was Herbert Spencer, who opened his Chapter 3 of his First Principles (I refer to the New York edition of 1862, p. 60) with the question "What are Space and Time?" and, too, Hardy was probably influenced by Kant's concept as well. Note, for example, his opening of The Dynasts, part 3, iii, line 84:
"What are Space andTime! A Fancy?"
The other influence was Auguste Compte, who had an idea about progress over time being a kind of "looped orbit" in which "progress" sometimes goes backward in order to spring further forward. Hardy diagrammed that in one of his notebooks (The Literary Notebooks of Thomas Hardy, ed by
Lennart Bjork, London, Macmillan, 1985), 2 vols, vol. 1, p. 76.
Good hunting!
Bob Schweik
Robert Schweik
University Distinguished Teaching Professor Emeritus
State University of New York
Fredonia, NY 14063
schweik@fredonia.edu
schweikr@localnet.com
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From: ulin@exchange.upb.pitt.edu
Subject: Re: Time
Date: March 19, 2005 5:36:46 PM PST
I can't give you the details because all I ever saw was a manuscript, but Jack Farrell wrote an excellent piece on the "chronotope" (drawn from Bakhtin and/or Benjamin, I can't remember!) in Hardy's fiction. An MLA search for "hardy" and "chronotope" would probably bring it up (assuming it did get published). And a student of mine once did a very fine paper on the subject, but that's another matter.
Don Ulin
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From: hobacus@clara.co.uk
Subject: Time
Date: March 20, 2005 1:35:45 AM PST
If memory serves me correctly, Hillis Miller writes about time in his essay on The Well-Beloved, Fiction and Repetition
Rob Abbott
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From: jacky@wilkibob.me.uk
Subject: RE: Time
Date: March 20, 2005 12:08:15 PM PST
Thanks for all the suggestions. I must take another look at the literary
notebooks. Actually, Don, it's the Bakhtin/carnivalesque connection with
time and Hardy that I am investigating so I shall certainly follow that lead
through. You have all certainly provided me with enough leads to keep me
busy for a day or two.
Jacky
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