H04058 MURIAL SPARK ON HARDY - 9/20/04 - HARDY FORUM ARCHIVES

From: ? hardycor@owl.csusm.edu

Subject: Spark on Hardy

Date: September 20, 2004 4:04:14 PM PDT

Dear All,

In his New York Times (Sept.19) review of Muriel Spark's new novel, *The

Finishing School* Thomas Mallon quotes a comment made by the author to an

earlier reviewer about her most famous book:

"I can't tell you how bored I am with Miss Brodie. Thomas Hardy used to

talk about Tess of the d'Urbervilles as 'Tess my old milch cow' because she

brought him a lot of money, and I really feel the same about Miss Brodie."

I've always understood that particular anecdote about Hardy (I don't have

the source at hand, and am paraphrasing) to refer to his rather laconic

response to a gushing female fan who accosted him at a party asking him

what Tess meant to him. I always found it amusing, but never took it to

mean that Hardy was ever, in any way bored with Tess, do you?

Betty

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From: DPowers328@aol.com

Subject: Re: Spark on Hardy

Date: September 20, 2004 5:49:35 PM PDT

No, just bored with gushing fans.

Donna

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From: harrys@cnetco.com

Subject: Spark on Hardy

Date: September 20, 2004 6:04:14 PM PDT

I believe it was characteristic of Hardy to downplay his feelings. This is

evident in the touches of irony or practicality with which he finishes

certain statements in the novels and the poetry. Nevertheless, almost all of

these statements carry at least a double meaning. "Tess my old milchcow"

might certainly be interpreted materialistically by his listener, or anyone

venturing too close to him. I have the impression that he was a very

private individual, especially emotionally. Furthermore, the loving, almost

mystical relationship Tess has as a milkmaid with the dairy cows brings into

focus her qualities as a nature-provider in whatever sense can be applied -

if the public responded to her with approval and sympathy, then indeed she

"fed" her source. This is a far way from being bored with Tess, and an even

farther way from the implication that his creation of Tess was mercenary.

 

Joan Sheski

www.purewatercolors.biz

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From: schweikr@localnet.com

Subject: Re: Spark on Hardy

Date: September 21, 2004 7:38:39 AM PDT

I do not have here the source for that quote but it probably

was in a biography of Alexander Macmillan. The remark

was in a conversation between them in which Hardy said to

Macmillan that Tess had been a good milch cow for both of

them.

Bob Schweik

Robert Schweik

University Distinguished Teaching Professor Emeritus

Department of English

State University of New York

Fredonia, NY 14063

USA

schweik@fredonia.edu

schweikr@localnet.com

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From: hardycor@owl.csusm.edu

Subject: Re: Spark on Hardy

Date: September 21, 2004 8:53:48 AM PDT

Bob's mention of Macmillan triggered my memory of where I read about that

anecdote.

I found it in James Gibson's edition of _Thomas Hardy: Interviews and

Recollections_, (Macmillan, 1999), a fascinating collection of facts,

incidentally. Gibson states that Harold Macmillan told him it was his

favourite story about Hardy:

"He has told it many times and the incidentals were often different but the

substance remained the same. At some function (variously Hardy's cottage,

at Wilton House, and at a 'crush' or party in London) a woman had come up

to Hardy while he was talking to Frederick Macmillan (Harold's uncle:

1851-1936) and asked him 'What did Tess mean to you Mr. Hardy?' After a

moment's reflection, Hardy turned to Sir Frederick and said, 'I don't know

what she meant to you, Sir Frederick, but she was a good milch-cow to me.'

No doubt the woman, failing to recognise Hardy's irony and her own

insensitiveness in asking him such a question in such a public place, went

away convinced that Hardy was concerned only with money." (61)

Betty Cortus

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