HARDY FORUM ARCHIVE HO3005 1/19/03 "FLORENCE HARDY'S UNKNOWN DIARY"
====================================================================
From: "Jeanie Smith" <jean_e_smith@hotmail.com>
Subject: Antiques Roadshow
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 19:14:55 -0000
A friend of mine has just called me to say that while she was watching 'The Antiques Roadshow' this evening a lady brought a previously unknown diary of Florence Hardy's to the program. Did anyone out there see it? Apparently the program will be repeated on Wednesday night at 1.15am. Best wishes to all Jeanie
==========
From: "James Gibson" <james.gibson@ukgateway.net>
Subject: RE: Antiques Roadshow
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 19:48:01 -0000
It seems to be a memorandum book or possibly a diary kept by Florence during the early years of her marriage to Hardy. What an exciting find!
All best,
Jim Gibson
==========
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 19:12:53 -0500
From: Rosemarie Morgan <rosemarie.morgan@yale.edu>
Subject: RE: Antiques Roadshow
Michael Millgate shows the way (as ever):
Go to:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/antiques/antiquesroadshow/
Click on "Price Guide" (left elevator)
Type "Florence Hardy" into the search window and see The Diary for yourself!
Besties,
Rosemarie
==========
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 07:31:56 -0800
From: Betty Cortus <hardycor@owl.csusm.edu>
Subject: Re: Antiques Roadshow
Once again it seems to be time to remind members how to unsubscribe from
the Forum. Please do not write to the list itself.
First, send and e-mail to:
HARDY-L-request@mailhost1.csusm.edu
then write the word unsubscribe in the subject line (not in the message
itself)
Don't write anything further in the message.
Note that this is a different address from the one used for sending
messages to the list.
Thanks for your cooperation,
Betty Cortus
hardycor@owl.csusm.edu
==========
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 21:19:22 -0500
From: Rosemarie Morgan <rosemarie.morgan@yale.edu>
Subject: Re: Antiques Roadshow
Jeanie--- are you talking about networking in the UK-? Here in Connecticut The
Antiques Road Show comes on a Monday night!
By the way, talking with Michael Millgate about this and noticing that the
date
of the diary (top of the page) is January 1917 (I think) and not 1914 (as the
ARS specialist has it,) we are both, Michael and myself, keen to know what
others can determine from the one image we have on the BBC website.
There are also references on those pages to Cockerell and *The Dynasts* which
indicate the later date.
Feedback please?
Cheers,
Rosemarie
==========
From: Martin Ray <enl090@abdn.ac.uk>
Sender: enl090@abdn.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Antiques Roadshow
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:53:09 +0000 (GMT)
Dear All:
I have just managed to see the repeat broadcast
of the Antiques Roadshow this morning.
The programme included a close-up of two leaves of the
diary (the same two which are shown on the BBC website),
and the shot lasted about five seconds. The date is clearly
January 1917 (not 1914 as the website suggests): this
simply confirms what Michael Millgate has already deduced.
The day appears to be the 17th, but I could easily be
mistaken in this.
There was also another brief shot of a later passage, and
the website is seriously misleading in its account of this:
the website says that the diary shows "Florence's annoyance
at her husband's references to former love making with
his previous wife", but the diary clearly shows that
Florence's complaint is that Hardy is "writing about" the
courtship, which is not at all the same thing, although the
website version no doubt makes juicier reading.
All the best,
Martin
Dr Martin Ray
School of English and Film Studies
University of Aberdeen
Aberdeen AB24 2UB
Scotland, UK
m.ray@abdn.ac.uk
Editor, Thomas Hardy Journal
==========
From: "Jeanie Smith" <jean_e_smith@hotmail.com>
Subject: Antiques Roadshow
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:20:47 -0000
Hello Everyone This is a rather belated reply to Rosemarie's request for more information on Florence Hardy's diary, my apologies to those of you who have been able to see the program by now. As Martin confirmed the diary is from 1917. On January 18th she writes that
in the morning she went to Dorchester to pay bills where she met Mrs
Huxtable, Major Buckley and Mrs Cousins. In the afternoon T went to
Talbothays to take Henry some cough mixture and she went to meet him. She
had a letter from Mr Cockerell asking about a printing of 'The Dynasts'. (I
couldn't read all of this).
In November (poss Friday 2nd) 'Irritable and rather a scene with TH. Felt
that I could not bear any more of this writing about his love making at St
Juliot with ELH'.
She doesn't say which one of them was irritable!
As Rosemarie has reminded me, Hardy was writing 'Moments of Vision' at this time and following the publication of 'Satires of Circumstance' in 1914, Florence was feeling that her marriage was something of a failure ("his sole wish is to
find refuge in the grave with her.")
I will be bringing a recording of the program to the Cambridge Conference in July, hope this fills in a bit more detail for those of you who will not get an opportunity to see it. Best wishes Jeanie
==========
From: "schweik" <schweik@fredonia.edu>
Subject: Re: Antiques Roadshow
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:35:35 GMT
Just a reminder about "love making at St. Juliot."
The phrase "love making" in Hardy's day meant something
like "flirting," or, in our (American) idiom, "coming
on to." I did *not* mean sexual intercourse. So, what
Florence was objecting to was Hardy's account of the
courtship in Hardy's poems--certainly not something
more explicit.
Bob Schweik
Robert Schweik
schweik@fredonia.edu
schweikr@localnet.com
==========
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:02:25 -0500
From: Rosemarie Morgan <rosemarie.morgan@yale.edu>
Subject: Re: Antiques Roadshow
Many thanks Jeanie.
I look forward to seeing the video at Cambridge.
Point of this quick note is just to say that *Moments of Vision* was published
in November 1917 and that TH had been working on the proofs, not writing the
poems. Many are dated earlier -- for example, "The Change" is dated 1913.
Apologies to Jeanie for not making this clear --although no doubt some
"writing" did go into the "proofing" (Jim or Bill would know) generally Hardy
seems to have been sensitive to the arduous task of the typesetters for whom a
changed line or two could cause many a headache.
Cheers,
Rosemarie
==========