HARDY FORUM ARCHIVE H02022 3/21/02 "ESSAY QUESTION ON "POWER OF THE WORKING CLASS"" ================================================================================== Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 15:42:30 -0500 From: "Kelli Coleman" Subject: Hardy's works To anyone: I need help! I have to write a paper on Thomas Hardy for my college english class. I need to write about his stand on the power of the working class and i need to know tow works that I can find that incorporate this. Can anyone give me any answers? Kelli Coleman kac7782@snip.net ========== Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 16:16:06 -0500 From: Rosemarie Morgan Subject: Re: Hardy's works Kelli--unfortunately the phrasing of the question pre-empts an appropriate answer. If we can eliminate the words "stand" and "power" then to proceed to studies of such characterisations of, say, Gabriel Oak (FFMC), Henchard (MC), Tess (TD) Sue & Jude (JO), while including a reading of (the short) *The Dorsetshire Labourer* might provide a useful start. Cheers, Rosemarie Morgan ========== Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 10:13:22 -0500 From: Rosemarie Morgan Subject: Re: Hardy's works Kelli-- A good friend, moved by your cry "in reference to the impossible essay topic someone had assigned" has asked me to post his advice, as follows: _________ "If the specifics of the assignment are unchangeable and she has to focus on just two books, one of them certainly ought to be JUDE, the other might well be TESS, alternatively the MAYOR. For enlightenment as to class issues she needs to read Merryn Williams on "Class" in the Oxford Reader's Companion and/or Williams's THOMAS HARDY AND RURAL ENGLAND (London: Macmillan, 1972). Not quite contemporary thinking on class, but still relevant. In fact, of course, TH spent his life NOT taking a stand on such issues." good luck, RM ========== To: Subject: Re: Hardy's works Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 15:49:36 -0000 I know this is not really helpful to Kelli, but what a pity we are unable to read 'The Poor Man and the Lady'. Surely this must have been about class. Does anyone know whether the ms. was destroyed? ========== Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 21:55:45 -0600 From: Glen & Sara van Alkemade Subject: Re: Hardy's works - trick question? Hmmm, maybe it's a trick question. Sometimes a grade-school student thinks his first science project is a complete failure, until I tell him his project conclusively demonstrated that the parameters under study are unrelated. Perhaps your nefarious English prof is looking for that one student in 100 who comes back with a paper outlining Hardy's life spent "...NOT taking a stand on such issues." Glen & Sara van Alkemade Jesus People USA 920 W. Wilson Ave #422 Chicago Il 60640 (773)561-2450 ext 1142 ========== Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 00:00:06 -0500 From: Rosemarie Morgan Subject: Re: Hardy's works - trick question? : Status: Dear Profs van Alkemade, A Very Serious Question? Would you grant me an A-grade (please, please?) for simply stating (as, I believe, did Bertrand Russell, once, in his wild syllogistic youth) that the "premise of the proposition is invalid?" Or would I be better off if I tackled the "unrelated" "parameter" in that a parameter defines a quantity in a mathematical expression that is constant in a particular case but varying in different cases? Not standing --to be sure--(too much gin) but not nefarious either, I hope -- (gulp) HELP! Rosemarie ========== Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 06:26:11 -0500 From: Robert Schweik Subject: 'The Poor Man and the Lady' Query About the Patmann inquiry on the manuscript of *The Poor Man and the Lady*, I'd check Purdy, of course, but also Pamela Dalziel's discussion of "Indiscretion" in her *Excluded and Collaborative Stories*. Bob Schweik schweik@fredonia.edu rschweik@fiam.net ========== From: "patmann" Subject: Re: 'The Poor Man and the Lady' Query Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 12:07:29 -0000 Thank you very much for the information. I have a copy of Purdy so I can check that and I'll try and get hold of a copy of Pamela Dalziel's book/books. Patricia ==========