HARDY FORUM ARCHIVE  H0017  2/18/00  "PAGANISM IN JUDE QUESTION"
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From: "Sam Gesell" <SamGesell@the-fishtank.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Paganism in Jude
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:00:42 -0000
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Hello everyone! I've been watching the group carefully for about 
six months now and haven't yet had the guts to post myself but now I have the 
chance!&nbsp; I am currently writing and essay for my English course on the role 
of paganism in Jude and I was just wondering if anyone had any opinions?&nbsp; 
It is a subject that has fascinated me and I would like to know what others 
think I'm also looking for a few Hardy poems that could be matched with 
the essay so can anyone help?

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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 07:20:38 -0700
Subject: Re: Paganism in Jude
From: "Philip & Andrea Allingham" <apalling@rockies.net>


For Hardy's attitudes towards Aristotelean tragic theory start with ";The Trampwoman's Tragedy" (1902) from *Time's Laughingstocks*. 
The absence of a Christian God is obvious in "Hap" and "The Convergeance of the Twain".

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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:58:45 -0800
From: Betty Cortus <hardycor@mailhost2.csusm.edu>
Subject: Re: Paganism in Jude
 

Dear Sam,
     Welcome to our contributors list with your interesting question.  Two
more poems touching on the subject of paganism are:
"Rome the Vatican: Sala Delle Muse"
It describes Hardy's reflections in the hall of the nine classical muses in
Rome.  And:
"Aquae Sulis"
This was the Roman name for Bath, called after Sul the British goddess of
waters and springs who was worshipped there before an edifice to the
Christian God was built on the same site.  I have heard it said that holy
ground tends to remain holy ground no matter which god is being worshipped,
and that Christian churches and cathedrals were frequently built over the
ruins of pagan temples.  Good luck with your research.
Betty Cortus

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From: Tessness@aol.com
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:48:04 EST
Subject: Re: Paganism in Jude

In a message dated 2/18/00 12:04:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
hardycor@owl.csusm.edu writes:

<< I am currently writing and essay for my English course on >the role  of 
paganism in Jude and I was just wondering if anyone had any >opinions?  >>

It has been far, far too long since i read _Jude_ but I do remember something 
about Sue and a pair of pagan statues, Aphrodite and Apollo, or some such 
thing?  I vaguely recall a sense of shame, or perhaps someone else's 
disapproval, and she threw them out or broke them, or something....?  I'll 
have to go back and look.

And I do know that paganism is all OVER _Tess_  (both Hardy's novel, and the 
writer of this post).  ;-)

Tess (no really)

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